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00037 - ADMIN: SAP400 and SAP on System i - Update

00037 - ADMIN: SAP400 and SAP on System i - Update

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ADMIN: SAP400 and SAP on System i - Update

Please take this message as a REPLACEMENT UPDATE to my former postings.
Update: Stick to "level B" i.e.
POST to SAP400, READ archive on SAP on System i
Kind regards
Rudi

> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 11:22 AM
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:25 AM
> >
> > Hello SAPlings!
> >
> > The eGroup has been founded! Thanks to Volker!
> > And he has added me as a moderator, i.e. list admin.
> > And we have discussed the "smooth solution" from which we think
> > that everyone of us should be able to live with.
> >
> > You can find the eGroup's main page at
> > http://www.egroups.com/group/SAP on System i
> >
> > We have set/I have changed the options so that
> > - Everyone can see the main page,
> > so advertizing FOR the group is possible.
> > - Everyone can subscribe (become a member).
>
> > - ONLY members can post,
> > so we still are a "private group".
> CHANGE: EVERYONE can post.
> Why? The postings from SAP400 appear as an eMail from the
> POSTER, not from the list server. The mail server sends
> all postings to SAP on System iZeGroups.com, but eGroups
> has to "accept" it. So EVERYONE has to be allowed to post.
>
> > - ONLY members can view the message archive!
> > This seemed to be necessary to me to prevent the whole world
> > from reading our communications.
> STILL TRUE: So we have the situation, that the message archiv is
> still private to the members.
> This configuration does not make sense to "strangers":
> They will not have much benefit from posting into the eGroup
> because their posting will disappear in the fog...
> But for SAP400 subscribers this does make sense if they register
> with the eGroup...
>
> > - Attachments are not allowed.
> > This prevents modem attached members from being offended by
> > big files. Files can be posted into the file area of the eGroup by
> > members.
> >
> > The two lists are linked, i.e.
> > SAP on System i is a member of SAP400
> > so that postings to SAP400 appear in the eGroup.
> > You all have got the welcome message from the eGroup with Volker's
> > explanations.
> >
> > The two lists CANNOT be cross linked, i.e.
> > SAP400 is a member of SAP on System i and
> > SAP on System i is a member of SAP400
> > so that postings to either list appear in either list.
> > AFAIK THIS WOULD LEAD TO AN INFINITE LOOP and a mail flood...
> >
> >
> > So the choice is up to you:
> >
> > A Stay with SAP400Zm...
> > and ignore SAP on System i
> >
> > B Stay with SAP400Zm...,
> > subscribe to SAP on System i
> > and use the new features introduces by SAP on System i.
> > Be aware to set your member options so that you do not get
> > all postings twice! The lists are linked!
> > Please edit your member data so that your real name appears
> > in the eGroup's member list.
> > Wait for the further development of the two groups.
> This is the level you should set.
> PERFORMANCE WARNING!
> My test postings took some 2 minutes to get processed
> by the SAP400 list server, but almost HALF AN HOUR
> elapsed until the message appeared in the eGroup.
PLEASE stay on this level! Why? See below...

> > C Unsubscribe from SAP400Zm...,
> > subscribe to SAP on System i
> > and use the new features introduces by SAP on System i.
> > Please unsubscribe in a correct manner!!!
> > mailto:majordomoZm... with UNSUBSCRIBE SAP400 in the
> > message body
> > so that MY mailbox does not get flooded by misleaded mails.
> > To prevent myself from becoming a human mailserver
> > I declare to ignore wrong unsubscribe messages. (Sorry for that.)
> > Be aware that you will keep getting the SAP400 postings
> > via the eGroup
> > but the postings to SAP on System i will not appear in the
> > SAP400 list!

MY INTERPRETATION of the many unsubscribe attempts
(BTW: most of them are wrong and ignored)
is that many of the subscribers tend to "level C".

IMHO level C is not feasable at the moment. Why?
1. There are 293 subscribers of SAP400,
but only 55 members of SAP on System i.
So your reponse chances fall from 100% to 18%.
2. The performance of SAP on System i is still the same.
More than half an hour vs. some 2 minutes!
I've already seen that responses via SAP400
outrun the question delivered by SAP on System i.

> > Do not hesitate to ask and/or contribute to the development
> > of our community.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Rudi - your list admin
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