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AS400 backing up NT


Gary,
I think I might have been misunderstood in my original comments. I do not
think that the TSM approach is overly expensive. However, I wanted to
clear up a micconception that you need the full suite of Tivoli products
(which can be expensive) in order to run Tivoli Storage Manager. You can
buy TSM as a standalone product.



Jim Sanders
Product Manager
iSeries Marketing for mySAP.com
IBM/SAP International Competence Center
Altrottstrasse 31, 69190 Walldorf
Germany

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Jim when you say expensive ,,,, well what is expensive. We have looked at
LTO's, the tapes alone will run us $22,000, add in hardware, software and I
think we are already running expensive. I already own hardware and tapes.

I'm at V4R5
740 12 way 4gb ram
2 3590---10 tape stacker on each.

And this is all on the same high speed network.

Thanks Jim.

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Gary,
There are several methods of doing this that I know of.

The most obvious is to use the new integrated capabilities of the xSeries
to take all the disk out of the xseries NT system and use disk on the
iSeries instead. However, you need the special cards in the xSeries and
the iSeries to do this, and many do not have this capability on their
current systems, or possibly have non IBM NT servers (how could this
be??!).

I think one of the best ways to do this is to use a storage management
package that runs on the iSeries. The one I know best is called Tivoli
Storage Manager (TSM) and used to be called ADSM. It has a client that
goes on each system and is managed by the iSeries (or another NT system, or
an AIX system, or Solaris, or HP-UX or OS/390 (sorry zOS) etc.) It does
not requirethe full Tivoli 'base' software to work (expensive) but is a
standalone product.

We use this in IBM Canada to back up all our personal PCs across our
normal network. If it was a large scale backup every night, you might need
a dedicated network to handle the load, or build a strategy of backing up
only changes ( this is the IBM strategy).

Finally, of course, a Storage Area Network like IBMs ESS can use the same
or similar software to do the same thing with the advantage that the tape
drive and all systems are already in the same high speed network.

Jim Sanders
Product Manager
iSeries Marketing for mySAP.com
IBM/SAP International Competence Center
Altrottstrasse 31, 69190 Walldorf
Germany

Telephone: +49 (0) 6227 731033 Fax: +49 6227 731052
E-mail: jsandersZc...

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Is anybody out there backing up NT on their network with an AS400? Is there
a recommended software? I would to try using our 3590 to back up our CRM/NT
boxes.







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