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IBM Supporting 720 ???
Hi All,From an Australian point of view (possibly the same elsewhere), the only
thing IBM have dropped is upgrades within 7xx models. That is, from model
7xx to another model 7xx. You can still purchase upgrades from 7xx to 8xx
models for a long time yet.
Regards,
Andrew Tilbrook
Computer Services Manager
Dairy Farmers
8 Parkview Drive
Homebush Bay NSW 2140
AUSTRALIA
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Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2002 16:35
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Subject: Re: IBM Supporting 720 ???
Hi, guys.
This is weird, unless IBM operates differently in different countries. Our
IBM guys tell us that our 730 will be supported into mid 2003. The Sxx
series became unsupported last year. We have been told that, with the
release of OS V5R2M0 later this year some time, SPD technology starts
becoming unsupported by the operating system. Typically, the 7xx series
still uses SPD, so maybe this is where the issue comes in. The newer 8xx
series only uses PCI technology which is what IBM tends to be enforcing.
From a (hardware) Maintenance (Agreement) point of view, though, the 7xx
should still be supported by IBM.
Regards,
Des Olwage
Snr. Systems Administrator
Goodyear South Africa
Tel. +27 41 5055441
Fax +27 41 5811195
Cell. +27 82 824 6900
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I think they dropped support last year for the 7xx series. We had to get
out of our 730 with short notice last year.
Andy
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06/04/2002 02:51 PM
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IBM Supporting 720 ???
I liked the comment on the 720 not being supported by IBM. What is
this about? We have a 720 running our DEV system. What is not
supported by IBM? I haven't heard anything about this.
It sounds like the 830+4way is your best option, then run in 2 tier.
--- In SAP on System iZy..., "ÓìáñéáííÜêçò ÃéÜííçò" <smarianakisZm...>
wrote:
> Hi Fellows Saplinks,
>
> We need some advice on our Upgrades on AS/400's
>
> The current situation is the following :
>
> We have a 3 - Tier Environment with :
>
> DataBase Server : 720 2-way (2063 feature) with 810 CPW (120
Interactive) , 3
> GB Memory and 120 GB Disk Storage(RAID-5) for SAP running on ASP 2
>
> 2 Application Servers : 270 2-way (2253 feature) with 2000 CPW (0
Interactive)
> 2 GB Memory and 35 GB Disk Storage (4 6718 Disks Mirrored).
>
> Applications and DB server are communicating through 100 Mb
dedicated Ethernet
> Cards.
>
> We are running under V4R5 OS SAP ver 4.6C and kernel EBSDIC 4.6D
with all the
> latest patches applied.
>
> We have about 120 users (concurrrent)
>
> The problem is the following :
>
> We are thinking of upgrading our system (or systems) because IBM
will not
> support 720 series anymore and mainly because we are experiencing
performance
> problems.
> (Avg Responce Time in Dialog steps is between 1300 and 1600 ms with
Avg Db req.
> time of 650 ms and Avg Resp Time of 14000 ms for background )
> We have some very demanding (custom) background jobs that can not
be scheduled
> to run at specific times (due to business reasons) and consume a
lot of
> resourses mainly at the Application Servres.( these jobs mainly
transfer all
> the POS sales into SAP system from various locations).
>
> Given the fact that the jobs do not change and are tunned as much
as possible
> we need some advice in what upgrade path you think will result in a
much faster
> system
>
>
> We have some possible scenarios :
>
> In all scenarios we'll upgrade to V5R1 OS
> 1. Upgrade the Database server in 830 4way (4200 CPW)
> Use the Database server as an application server as well as
database server and
> keeping the Application servers as the are know (actually they will
be at 2350
> CPW each, after the upgrade to V5R1) and use Gigabit Ethernet Cards
>
> 2. Upgrade the Databse server to 820 2way (2350 CPW) and adding an
extra
> Application server model 270 2-way (similar to the ones that
already have) and
> use Gigabit Cards.
>
> We also considering of moving to ASCII version of SAP and going to
Unix or
> W200 for Application servers, keeping the Database AS/400. This
step though can
> not be done for at least 7 months from know as our developers
informed us,
> mainly because of developing issues.
>
> Given the above situation which of the above solutions will result
in a faster
> SAP system (pureley for hardware point of view keeping all tha
other factors
> the same) ?
> And also what kind of improvement can we expect ?
>
>
> Any advise will be appreciated
>
>
>
> Thank's in advance,
>
> *************************************
> Yannis Smarianakis
> SAP Basis & System Administrator
> Minoan Lines
> tel : +30810399892
> e-Mail: smarianakisZm...
> *************************************
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